The optimization debate sucks because every time you ask someone with their 100 meshes and 5000 dynamic bone interactions to optimize they just say BuT nObOdY kNoWs HoW OpTiMiZaTiOn WoRkS iT's MoStLy ThE gAmE's FaUlT aNyWaY

basically nobody even attempts to optimize and they shield themselves with their excuses and they sit there telling you to get a better computer while you just shrug and block their avatar

then a few weeks later you get to hear the WHY AM I A GREY ROBOT IN THE GROUP PHOTO REEEEEEEEEEEEE