I'm having the weirdest issue with phys bones. So on an avatar I have a chain that dangles from her upper arm and it just hangs and swings around as I move the arm. It looks good and works normally when I just move the arm around.

However if I grab the chain (or someone else does) it goes absolute batshit insane. Like it just starts spinning like crazy and deforming, only when grabbed. I have pull set to 0 so it cannot be stretched out it can only be grabbed and moved around, but it goes nuts. I assume this has to do with the settings but I wouldn't even begin to know what could be causing this..

halp