>>274211703
It's not that simple. It's more a progression of a spectrum.
They start straight and pure. They do it ironically. They start sharing sock pics ironically. Then they host nightly orgies and call you an incel and a hypocrite for not joining in with them unironically or going to the real life meetups where they cuddle in a pile of men wearing the socks they previously sent to each other over the internet.